Sunday, 13 November 2005

Family portraits how-to: Version 2

I wrote the first version of this almost two years ago and looking at my blog stats, I can see that it's been very popular! But I have learnt tons about posing since then, from other Simmers and just from trial and error and some of it was a bit outdated (and WTF was with my terrible example pictures?!?) I thought it was about time I compiled some of my new knowledge here.

First up, you'll need some pose boxes! These are my current favourites:
Decorgal's Custom Modeling Poses Overlay - if you don't get any other pose boxes, get this one! It is the only one I know of that will allow you to change a Sim's facial expression and can be used in conjunction with any other pose box.

The facial expressions don't work with children but you can edit the box so that they do if you follow the instructions here. If you're scared of SimPE, you could also just download this box which contains all the facial expressions enabled for kids. I preferred to just edit the original box, because seriously, I have enough boxes in my game without adding another! But that's totally up to you.

The Custom Prop Hack is a lot of fun if you want your Sims to be holding purses, umbrella, wine glasses or a ton of other different things.
Giu has made some really wonderful pose boxes, including some sweet poses for families.
I'm also totally nuts about MayPink's boxes. Lots of poses for couples, as well as some good poses for single Sims.
This hack by Squinge contains all the game animations/poses for toddlers. It's not a box - you just make your toddler selectable and choose the pose you want from the menu.
This list at GOS is updated fairly frequently and contains a ton of links to different pose boxes. If you ever ask me in Comments where I got such and such a pose, I will probably tell you the name of the box and then direct you to this list. If you know the box you're looking for, it's not nearly so overwhelming!

Other essential items:
OMSPS - OMSP stands for One More Slot Package. These are what will enable you to place your Sims close together but they're also handy for decorating. I use these shiftable ones and I also like these angled ones.
Look at Player - Look at Player does exactly what you'd expect and instructs the Sim to look in your direction. This won't work with all of the pose boxes but it's very handy nonetheless.
The Freezer Clock - Even if you've got your Sim in a pose, it sometimes doesn't stop them from trying to carry out an action (or stop a visiting Sim from trying to carry out an action on them) and it can completely ruin your picture and make the whole process very frustrating. This will freeze specific Sims or freeze the game clock for you. Get it here.

A word of warning about Freezer Clock: be very, very careful when using this in a house with pets, babies, toddlers or children. If you freeze all adults/teens and leave the kids unfrozen, the social worker/animal control might come to collect your children or animals. I learnt that the hard way and had to quit without saving!

Okay, now that you have everything you need, it's time to set up your picture.

Each Sim you want in the picture needs to have their own OMSP to stand on. So put some down, enter the move_objects on cheat and place each Sim on an OMSP.

Then select each Sim's pose from the pose box. Some boxes are self-explanatory, some are only numbered but after you do these for a while, you get to know what's what. Before I use any pose, I choose a facial expression from Decorgal's custom modeling box - her poses are overlays, which means you can use them in combination with other poses.

Once your Sims are posed, enter the cheat boolprop snapobjectstogrid false - this lets you place objects (and Sims!) anywhere you like, rather than within the specific tile limits. You might want to use boolprop allow45degreeangleoforotation true as well, which will allow you to rotate objects (and Sims!) diagonally. Sometimes poses look better on an angle.

Now, you can start moving your Sims together to get them posed as you like. The cheats should give you almost complete freedom in moving your Sims around.

Once everyone is posed, make sure they're all looking your way by selecting each Sim, clicking on them and then choosing "Look at Player" from the menu. Freeze them with Freezer Clock once they're looking the right way.

An alternative to Freezer Clock (kindly shared by Maisie) is to pose your sim and then use one of the EA "Pose..." interactions to get the sim to look at you. They will look at you immediately and they will stay looking at you until you tell them to stop. If you want your sim's facial expression to be anything other than the basic smile, you'll still need Freezer Clock - the EA pose will override any other facial expression you've set for the sim. For family portraits though, you usually want your sims smiling, so it is a very handy tip indeed! Thanks again for sharing it, Maisie!

A couple of examples, for you, so you can see this in action.

These are the easiest family portraits to do. None of the Sims are touching and they're all standing up.

Couple poses are not quite as easy but with the cheats on and with everyone on OMSPs, you should be able to line up the Sims so that you don't have any arms poking through stomachs or anything!

Edit: Not a MayPink pose! It's from this box. Thanks Mandie, for pointing that out!

Here, I'm using one of Giu's poseboxes to have Finn hold Keira on his shoulders. I'm 99% sure Victoria's pose with her arm around Finn is from the same box. Araminta and Declan are both using poses from Decorgal's modeling box. Caitlin is using an in-game pose (accessed by clicking the selected Sim, as long as you have BV).

Most pose boxes are only enabled for teens, adults and elders. Some are enabled for children as well but it's kind of a pain to use them. Even though the poses are enabled for kids, they're still designed for adults, so the kids will usually be floating above the ground once you pose them. Some sitting poses work just fine for kids but you'll have to experiment to see which poses they are. I'm normally happy to just use the in-game poses for kids.


Posing Sims who are holding babies or toddlers can be a bit tricky. First of all, you need to choose a facial expression for them before they pick up the kid. To get them to look at the camera, try having another Sim walk into their line of sight. The Sim should move their head and follow the other Sim with their eyes. When the Sim's head turns the way you want it, freeze them with Freezer Clock!

If you're lucky, the toddler or baby may also move their head to watch the walking Sim and you can get everyone facing the camera. I don't mind too much when that doesn't happen for me, because even in real life, it's hard to get kids that little to sit still for photos. ;) And I'm all about realism in my game!

Now that you've taken a lovely family portrait of your Sims, wouldn't you like to have these hanging on your Sims' walls? Of course you would! Read this for a better way of using the antique camera!

I hope this has shed some light on portrait taking for you. As always, any questions in Comments are welcome. :)

20 comments:

  1. Thank you soo much! Perfectly awesome! I have the the photo pose box that you use the most, and had the omsp's too, just couldn't get the two actually near to each other, now I know why! Thank you for taking the time to explain and link everything! Off to finish my portraits. :D

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  2. Wow, did you read that tutorial at Jaydee's about the "allmenus" cheat! Holy crap, I'm about to go to town on that business, lol! All those hidden animations! Way too excited about that!

    There's just always something new to learn with this game, isn't there? :)

    Thanks for the links!

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  3. Thanks for the tut. I've been doing the family portraits for a while but there was some very useful stuff that helps. Like the freezer clock, that will be very handy!

    Squinge has a mod called "Toddler poses" which lets you choose some poses and animations for toddlers.
    http://www.insimenator.org/showthread.php?t=96502

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  4. Maisie, yeah, it's possible to do portraits without the cheats and sometimes you can even make them touch but it's an exercise in frustration. The cheats, the OMSPs and the pose boxes combined make it much easier.

    Laura, I've seen the allmenus tutorial and it looks pretty awesome. I'm yet to try it, only because I'm dubious about putting testingcheats in my userstartup. That cheat really makes my game lag so I'd have to check if I could still turn it off.

    I like the look of that debug social too! That'd be really handy for when I want to force a rejection.

    Cissie, you're welcome. The freezer clock is great, you'll love it. Thank you for that link too. That looks awesome! I'm going to check it out next time I play and then add it to the main text of this post.

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  5. You can tell on my journal post with the CDBlair family that I used this tutorial. LOL! I'm in love with that Freezer Clock now, and also with using the OMSPs to stand my Sims on so they can get close. That's brand new for me. I put Emely Blair on one and she slid right next to her mother close, and so easily! I almost cried. LOL!

    It was the thorn in my side all this time. I HATED how they stick sideways and on top of other Sims when I moved them too close to each other! That's mainly why I always had my Sims posing while sitting on the couch before. Thanks so much for sharing these tips. I really need to start experimenting with some of these pose boxes to see what they offer.

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  6. Simmington, I'm glad you found it helpful! Setting up family photos is so much fun once you get the hang of using all the hacks in conjunction with each other.

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  7. Hey Carla! 2 things for you:

    1. I really wish I would have read this about 2 hours ago, because I lost a toddler to the social worker when I was posing the family for the post header picture! Lol, I also had to exit without saving and re-play the family. But I got the cutest shot!

    2. The pose you have for Maia and Ethan...you said it's a May pose, but I don't see it in any of those pose boxes. Could you tell me which one it is from specifically? I need more couple poses for my game! Thanks!

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  8. Mandie, as I said, I learnt that the hard way as well, so hopefully, I can save someone else the trouble in the future! Can't wait to see your cute shot. ;)

    And yes, thanks for pointing that out! Maia and Ethan's pose is similar to one MayPink has but it's not the same one. That pose is actually from Wuyi's box:

    http://www.simscave.com/index.php?topic=7633.0

    There are some other nice couples poses with that box too, so it's definitely worth a look if that's what you're after. :)

    Thanks for reading!

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  9. I dont know if this would be helpful but I use SimPE photo toolbar to do this. I have used SIMPE to create the portraits because I find that I can create a sort of Collage with them. If you use SIMPE you can then use the [ ] keys to adjust the frame above, below another one. I wish the regular pictures taken with a camera had this option. If I am wrong then please let me know! It does get a little tedious to do it with simpe but in the end I love the collage effect.

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  10. Bernz, I'm afraid I'm not really sure what you're talking about. This post is about posing Sims which I can assure you is something you cannot do in SimPE. Sorry but I'm really scratching my head over your comment, lol!

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  11. Thanks so much Carla! I love that pose and I found a bunch of other boxes from that site. You're the best!

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  12. You're welcome - there are a ton of pose boxes at Sim Cave. I think most originally come from Asian sites, which I usually find very difficult to navigate!

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  13. Unfortunately it looks like Sims Cave is now Sims Grave :( The domain has expired. :(

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    1. Thanks for letting me know, Kiri. I found their new address and will now update the link to Wuyi's box. Hopefully they stay put now!

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  14. Hey! I was just wondering where I can get hold of these poses that you use in your post? I have gone into the links and checked. Can you please send me a link? (amaran@live.se) thank you!

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    1. The links I've given at the top of this post are all still active, so I'm not sure what links you're expecting me to send you. I've provided all the links I have on hand right here.

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  15. Love this post! I had a few poseboxes ages ago but deleted them because I never used them. This post really made me want to create some family portraits to hang around my sims houses!

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    1. It took me a long time to get seriously into posing but once I started, I was hooked. The actual process can be a bit tedious but the results are satisfying enough that I keep going. I hope you have tons of fun with this!

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  16. This was really helpful, thank you!!! :D

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    1. You're welcome! Hope you can take some fabulous family photos now!

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